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(Ep.91) Back to the Basics with guest Telisa Randle

• Season 2 • Episode 91

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Join the insightful Telisa Randle and me as we unravel the complex world of young entrepreneurs navigating the digital age's challenges. Our conversation shifts the focus toward the influence of social media and AI on business, and the enduring value of education. Telisa passionately upholds the principle that intellectual growth cannot be sidelined for financial gain, urging a curriculum revamp to arm the next generation with tech-centric skills. As we dissect these topics, we offer you a blueprint for innovation and success that intertwines savvy entrepreneurship with lifelong learning.

Imagine stepping out into the world, equipped to manage not just your business but your life. That's the essence of our latest dialogue, where we emphasize the critical nature of financial literacy and the delicate dance between income and outgoings. I 

As we wrap up our series, we take a moment to appreciate the enriching journey of education and the intellectual expansion it fosters. Personal anecdotes invite you to ponder the longing for simpler connections and the stark economic contrasts that shape our society. So, tune in, and absorb the wisdom, and let's continue the conversation on the transformative power of knowledge and entrepreneurship.

Chuck :

Hey, welcome back to another episode of Lets Just Talk About it podcast. I'm your host, chuck, and if you're here for the first time, this platform was created to give genuine people just like you an opportunity to share a portion of your life's journey. So, with that being said, on this episode I have returning guest Telisa Randel on with me today, where we have a great conversation on entrepreneurship and the challenges that this young generation faces when they venture out on their own. So, you don't want to miss this amazing conversation today. As a matter of fact, do me a favor go and grab your husband, your wife, your children, or even call a friend and gather around to listen to my conversation with Telisa or let's just talk about it podcast. Hey, let's jump right in. All right, today I have to Telisa Randel back on with me, a returning guest. Thank you so much for being a part of let's Just Talk About podcast, Telisa . Thank you.

Telisa Randle:

Hey, thank you. How are you today?

Chuck :

Doing great, doing great. I wanted to have you back on to discuss some entrepreneurship, because I know this is a generation that everybody wants to be an entrepreneur and go get the bag right. So that's why I want to have you back on, because I know you're a very educated individual in that area of starting your own business, your 501 3C, that sort of thing. So, yeah, let's talk about it, let's jump right in. So what do you think about becoming an entrepreneur in 2024?

Telisa Randle:

I think that the world has opened up more for opportunities for entrepreneurship, and it seems as if, since the pandemic, a lot of people have been doing it by way of being an influencer.

Chuck :

Got you.

Telisa Randle:

So there are a lot of people in social media has really opened the door for them to become that entrepreneur.

Chuck :

Content creation.

Telisa Randle:

Content creation. Yes, yeah, the world of content creation and AI. Right, because AI gives you shortcuts to content creation and it's not plagiarism or anything like that. It's really your own who you are. You're just using it as a avenue to wake up sleepy giants in your body to create more. That's how I feel about it.

Chuck :

Got you. Why is it so important to you for young people to have their own, you know, start their own businesses. Talk about that.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah, so, like I said, the world has changed and how things are going on in each individual household has changed.

Telisa Randle:

Because the world has changed, because we've become more of a reactive world than an observant world. So you don't have the percentage of observant people higher, because if you're more observant than you are reactive, you will see more and you can discover more and you can learn more and you can do things a little bit more strategically based upon what you observe Got you. So, regarding young entrepreneurship, I think it's very important to have that avenue out there for our young folks in the world, especially our new generation, because what they're observing and what they're seeing and what they're learning is this content creation stuff and it's an entrepreneurial platform. And so I think that what I've been hearing a lot, especially sitting on panels, they talk about how you don't have to have an education to become a millionaire and stuff like that. I think that's a wrong seat to implant into our children, because when we further hear the conversation, it always add racism to the flavor. You know what I'm saying and it stirs it up. What do you?

Chuck :

mean by that?

Telisa Randle:

Like. I'll give you an example of one of the platforms that I go in every now and then. I don't want to ask often, but when I sat in it, often I would hear that you don't need to get an education to be a real estate investor. All you need to do is learn about real estate investment and you could become rich, and you don't need the diploma and stuff like that. So there actually was a group that was out there saying those things and as I listened to it as a therapist and I also listened to it as a Christian and I also listened to it as a parent- Okay, you know I'm also looking into the next generation.

Chuck :

Yeah, education, I believe, is very, very important, because after the money runs out, you know you still got to use your brain. But I believe the generation just focuses on getting the bag, as we call it, the paper, yeah Well yeah, I think that uh, yeah, education.

Telisa Randle:

it should be a fallback in a sense, but it also should be intellectually development for anything you want to do in your life, whether you want to work for corporate America, whether you want to work whatever, whether you want to be an entrepreneur it's important to have that as your education that basic reading, writing and math. And then, because of the world is opening up and social media is here, it's even more important to have that reading, writing and math and that, uh the science piece of it. Now we have AI, so now the technology piece of it. So it's important to have that, what they call it STEM science, technology education and math. So it's uh important to have that for our young kids and to uh redirect the curriculum that they're going through in school because, right now, because of the COVID the madness that instructors and teachers have dealing with those individuals that come out of COVID from being from sitting at home, and now they have to create a way to redirect them into getting back adjusted to the educational curriculum, way of life, right, and so, um, as far as entrepreneurship is concerned, in my generation it was a little bit different, because I'm 57 years old, so when I got in high school I learned student free enterprise. You know that's entrepreneurship, free enterprise, what's going on in the world. You know that we can look at and develop.

Telisa Randle:

From Then we also had courses such as economics, so I'm able to see the numbers of the world, what is going on with this learning, world trade and you know. And philosophy and geography and stuff like that. And then I also had family living. You know what is a family, what is, what is the neutral of a family, what's the average mom, dad, son and daughter. And you know in the legacy of it all. So I learned family living, how important it is to stick together. You know the marriage portion of it, having a baby.

Telisa Randle:

So, I had those kind of classes. I was walking around with an egg, with a husband in class trying to keep the egg alive, you know, and stuff like that, and so I had sewing classes. So in high school we had our classes that we needed in order to graduate, but we also had those elective classes to teach us the things that we need to know on this earth, right? And we didn't get those. Some of those things we're unable to get from home, because our world has a high percentage of single family homes and when you have a single parent that has more than two kids, it's on and popping after that. You know, that's how I say, that's my language of saying zone and popping is hard to get through. Some people do it, but it's not the high percentage of it, you know what I'm saying. It's just those who have that structure and that focus and that determination to make sure their children get to the next level, right? But there's also that percentage that are struggling. That's the stuff we see on the news all the time. So those are the seeds that they plan on us that grow and we respond to it. And when I said earlier, it's always best to be observant, they to be reactive, because if we observe it and look around you, then you can see it from a different perspective. That's just my belief, my observation, and so, when it comes to entrepreneurship for the young folks, teaching them that reading right, that stem, the science, technology education and math, is very important for them to know, and so I think, when they encouraged them not to have an education, I think that's a false hope for them, especially with our generation that are now like 16 to 25 years old being a therapist and knowing that the percentage of my population that come and see me now is in that age range and they're not sure about what to do with their life, because they thought that this was the way and they found out this ain't the way. And then the pressures of being home, and then the pressures of parents giving them pressures to make a decision of what you want to do with your life, you know. So I think that those are the challenges that we have here in the world when it comes to our younger generation, and so I know someone might ask the question then what do we need to do about it? Well, what do we need to do about it is to change our own perspective, in our own household, and look at life and the things that's going on in life from a different perspective.

Telisa Randle:

I personally tell my kids to focus on numbers. I said the world is going through a lot and it's hurting. And I said, however, if you focus on the numbers, you probably have a better chance of survival out here on your own, without having to pack up and come home. And they asked me what does that mean? Yeah, well, what that means to me is this If you're going to move away from home because you want to just stand on your own two feet, know how much it costs that you're going to have to pay rent for. Now, know that you're going to have to have a renter's insurance if you're just renting, if you're owning a home homeowner's insurance.

Telisa Randle:

You need to know those numbers and then also know what your average electricity bill is about to be, what your average water bill is about to be, what your average garbage. You know because Virginia has all three of those separate right now. And so those numbers, if you're going to own a car and make a car, note, know what those numbers going to be. If you're going to have car insurance, know what that number is going to be, because that's a mandatory. And if you need to, you know the fix up of the cars, keeping it to maintenance and stuff. Know those numbers.

Telisa Randle:

You know you have to know those numbers in order to survive out here. You can't go out here and think you're going to get an apartment. It's going to stop. You got to know those numbers and you got to know what you're doing. You have to know what you're doing in your life is going to continue to. It's almost like passive income, passive bills. Know that these passive bills are going to always be there, so you going to have to have some kind of form of income to suffice those passive bills. Right, and so people talk about passive income like passive bills.

Chuck :

So your advice is to a young person that's. You know, looking to get out of the house is to first look at the numbers.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah. Okay, wow, good advice Pay attention to the numbers that's going on out there and make sure that you can cover those numbers, because you know statistics showing that most kids that walking away from home. They're walking away from home out of a negative relationship with their parents, you know yeah.

Telisa Randle:

And so it's almost like running away from home but not having a plan. So you have to have a plan when you leave home. But it entails numbers, right, and so it's best to leave home under a positive sacrifice. There is under a negative sacrifice, because if you leave under a positive sacrifice, then if things don't work out for you with your numbers, you can always come back home and say hey ma, the numbers didn't work out for me. I need to come home and regroup.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah, wow, and parents need to understand that once their kids gone doesn't necessarily mean they're all, they're going to be gone permanently. Just because they joined the military don't mean they're gone permanently. You know what I'm saying? Because it might not work out for them. And if it don't work out for them, then they have to have some place to go to regroup. Right, and it's called life lessons, you know. It's called looking at things from a different perspective. It's called understanding that the world has changed so therefore we have to change from a mental perspective or mental therapeutic perspective. It's called chronic adjustment disorder. You know what I'm saying. They have a hard time adjusting to what's going on out there in life.

Chuck :

Especially now so yeah.

Telisa Randle:

so I'm not one quick to say those different diagnosis, such as bipolar and all that stuff. I do assessment to see if it's just they having difficulty adjusting to what's going on out there in life.

Chuck :

Wow.

Telisa Randle:

And then I educate them on that and even if I have to give her a diagnosis for those mental disorders, I still turn around and educate my clients on that stuff. You need to understand that you have bipolar disorder and this is what it is and this is the symptoms and, based upon the answers that you put in the assessment, the numbers are showing that you have a closer number of being in that diagnosis. So therefore, I need to educate you on your diagnosis and we need to come up with a treatment plan to help you manage that diagnosis. So that would be the same thing. You look at it from a perspective of your kids. The diagnosis is this they're 18 years old and they might not have a career. They don't know what they want to do with their life and what they do know is this TikTok is teaching them. If you create content, you could be so rich.

Chuck :

But what they?

Telisa Randle:

don't know, is that is a consistent thing that you got to do every day. You have to have a creative mind, you have to have creative content and sometimes, sometimes it gets to a place where you end up selling yourself to the devil, meaning that you might put in a content that's going to cost you your future. You might put in a content that put out a family member. That might cost them their future.

Telisa Randle:

You know, and I'll give you an example of that. I saw a content a young lady that was living with a boyfriend and they got the baby and she was a very well known influencer who's? You get a certain amount of number, you become an influencer, and so for me, when I was watching her, I said she's running out of content and she's only like 21 years old with the baby. So she decided to create a content by playing a trick on her baby's daddy.

Telisa Randle:

Got you and making him feel like he wasn't the father of her baby, and this content went on for longer than it should have. The content should have a goal in the song. Expiration day yeah, yeah, and so it went the wrong way. It went the way in which somebody got hurt and somebody was threatening to kill, Somebody was retting kill themselves and all of them I take us all out, you know. And so when you think out from that perspective, you say see, this is what.

Telisa Randle:

I'm talking about when I say it's so important to have that intellectual development because when you're making money and creating content, there's no time to read, there's no time to write. Yeah, there's no time to learn. You know, there's no time. Nothing. You're learning from your trial and errors, you know? Wow. So those are things that I'm not saying, that this is the reason why I'm saying that they need to have the education. If they have the education and increase their ability to survive on this earth when they go through trials and tribulations.

Chuck :

Yeah, when the being creative dries out, you can. You can go. Yeah, when the being creative, yep.

Telisa Randle:

And then they need the education to help them see everything differently or to gravitate towards a direction that they have some educational experience in. And so right, because if you look at celebrities and how, you don't know how many of them and how many times they went into bankruptcy trying to build this career of becoming a celebrity on TV and what really helped them was the pandemic. That's what helped them get on the map, because nobody was at work but everybody was watching.

Telisa Randle:

TV and on the internet. So it gave for opportunity and more creativity for them to become celebrities, music celebrities, acting actors celebrities, producers, screenwriters all that. The pandemic gave them blessings too, and not just the influencer, but gave them. But what if we did not have that pandemic?

Chuck :

Right, that's it.

Telisa Randle:

As you see, I pause when I said that.

Chuck :

Yeah, talk about it.

Telisa Randle:

So every good thing on this earth do come with some negative consequences.

Chuck :

Yeah.

Telisa Randle:

And what was our negative consequences when the pandemic hit mental health? And so, in mental health, they wear some of this stuff like tattoos, like depression, bipolar suicide. It's like they're wearing these tattoos today.

Chuck :

Right, it's normal. Yeah, they come into counseling.

Telisa Randle:

They come into the therapist and saying I got depression, they come to therapist. I have panic attacks, they come into the therapist. I question the wonder Do the therapist look at it from a different perspective by saying okay, when they do the assessment and the interview, the curiosity out of me is where you get the diagnosis from, who gave it to you, how you got it. And so I tell clients I'm a different type of counselor.

Telisa Randle:

I said that I am what we call the word Frank. If no one, frank means that means like somebody's kind of sarcastic, somebody gets straight to the point. You got to have heart to be with me, you know straightforward, yeah, straightforward. And so that's what you're looking at, and that's it not giving a care about you. That's me waking up sleeping giants in your body that's good and giving you self-awareness.

Chuck :

Now let you be comfortable.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah, that don't be comfortable with me, because this is not a comfortable, this is not going to be comfortable. And then you got to do the work. I like it Because this pandemic it became a blessing for us as therapists as far as financial is concerned, but it also became a curse for us too, because now we got more than enough and now we got to turn people away. Now we got to watch people go through stuff. We got to watch people die. We want to just gravitate, but we're looking at our own clients, so now we have to manage our boundaries. So everything that happens good don't mean that it will have no negative reaction.

Chuck :

Yeah, I see that.

Telisa Randle:

So I just think that having the education if you want to be an entrepreneur, having the education if you want to do anything in life, is really, really important for us to get back to. And going back to that old school stuff, like having those things in schools, is helpful for the people at home that are single parents. We can't keep throwing darts in their eye because we can't pluck them in their eye and not pluck ourselves, and so we can create the curriculum for it. We can get back to the curriculum for it if that's what they really want to do, and you don't have to be so creative. Education world should always be the same, like real estate we already know real estate is always the same how you look for houses, how you get houses, how the real estate age, the market for houses.

Chuck :

How the?

Telisa Randle:

title company do the paperwork. All that doesn't change. It's still the same. It just got a little bit colorfulness to it, like content, but it's still the same. How you wholesale the house is still the same. Why can't education be the same? Why we got to be so creative with education that we run out of.

Chuck :

Why can't we just stay the same in education.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah, why we have to drop this, drop that, drop that. Basic reading, basic math, basic social studies, basic economy, economics, basic sewing classes, basic family living Right it worked Giving them the tools that they need to survive out here. So when they do get to their 30s and 40s and 50, they got some basic tools.

Chuck :

Wow, you're absolutely right. It definitely did work Home, mat.

Telisa Randle:

Home economics Gym yeah for real. You can still read. You can read on an iPad if you want to, but you can still read, you can still write, you don't? Everything don't have to be tight. Right, use those hands, use those fingers and put a signature onto it, right and cursive. Go back to that. Sell the books, sell the coloring books, put them back out. There, you're right. Go back to the basic for these kids. Go back to the basic. It worked for us, it can work for them.

Chuck :

Absolutely.

Telisa Randle:

You know, picking up the cell phone, picking up the iPad just to keep them busy and quiet. They can do the same thing with coloring books, they can do the same thing with puzzles, they can do the same thing with the Rubik's Cube, they can do the same thing with all that.

Chuck :

To make you think. Work your brain, work that, make you think, exercise that brain, absolutely yeah make you correlate, make you organize, make you structure. Yeah, that's good. I like that. Make you work that brain, exercise that brain.

Telisa Randle:

I love it? Yeah, because if you don't exercise that brain, who takes over Depression, bipolar panic attacks?

Chuck :

Wow, you're dropping some good free game Free, I'm going to call it free, definitely.

Telisa Randle:

I just want the world to know. This is my perspective, this is my disclaimer.

Chuck :

This is my perspective.

Telisa Randle:

But you know, like I said, I'm 57 years old.

Chuck :

Shout out to you.

Telisa Randle:

I study and I research for a living on a doctorate. The higher your education, the more intellectual you become, the more you start seeing things from a different perspective. That's why most researchers have doctorate degrees, because once you get to a doctoral level, you're doing a lot of research, yeah, and then you start seeing things differently and you start saying, man, I didn't even know this was like this out here.

Telisa Randle:

I didn't even know they'd be a research on this. I didn't even know this came out this way. Somebody wrote a published article about this and I was thinking about it. Man, it's out here already. It's just ain't out here enough. Wow, so it's nothing negative against our world and it's not dehumanizing anybody or just dehumanizing cultures and races or anything like that.

Chuck :

It's just saying getting back to the basic is yeah, simple things of life, simple things, yeah, yeah.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah, because the world sees and colors and arts, and so that's what drive the materialistic in us. We see colors and art. You know, it's beautiful art when someone can create a wig and make it look beautiful, right. It's beautiful art when somebody can have beautiful nails on with designs on it. It's beautiful art when guys can get these haircuts that it fits the proportion of their face. It's beautiful art, it really is. But everybody don't have that kind of skill.

Chuck :

Right, it seemed like the more we have, it was less. I'm not saying it wasn't depression or anxiety, but the less it wasn't as much, but it seemed like the more we accumulate, the more there is depression. You know, mm-hmm.

Telisa Randle:

Mm-hmm, yeah, and so I raised my kids as a single parent, so the world would know. And I raised my kids not saying anything about their dad or anything like that and really connecting them. Still in the cake, but he had the choices whether he wants to show up in person or not. I never took that away from him, so I just had a different perspective on everything when he came, because I came from old school raising, I got a piece of it.

Telisa Randle:

A lot of children today, in their 20s, right now, don't have a piece of the old culture. They don't know what it feels like to make homemade biscuits and grab grandma and great grandma recipes. They don't know what it means to have a cherry tree in your backyard, even if you live in the city. They don't know what it means to have a tomato garden Mm-hmm, you know. They don't know what it means to have clothes hanging out on the clothes line and letting the sun and the air build the freshness in it. You know what I'm saying. They don't know what it feels like to run as a kid in between those sheets and have fun and sit them and pass out and lay on your back in the backyard. They don't know that type of freedom.

Chuck :

Climbing trees.

Telisa Randle:

They don't know that. Climbing trees, they don't know that. They don't know that getting two ropes in a tire, out of the alley and punching holes in them and tying them on a tree and swinging on them, they don't experience that. So how would they know how to take what the earth has blessed us with to build the pond, you know? But there's a lot of creativity and colors that drive our materialistic suits and nice dresses and heels, stilettos with diamonds and dots and colors and all that stuff in it. Those drive our materialistic instance and we are willing to pay the money for it.

Chuck :

To have it, to show it off.

Telisa Randle:

But now we need to look at that cost differently.

Chuck :

Look at the numbers.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah, and look at the numbers.

Chuck :

Look at the numbers.

Telisa Randle:

And take it back to the basic, and I know some people are probably saying how do we do that when the numbers keep going up in the world?

Chuck :

Yeah, talk about that.

Telisa Randle:

Well, I learned on my journey that if I live in Hawaii, the cost of living is higher than it is here in Virginia.

Chuck :

Right.

Telisa Randle:

If I live in New York, the cost of living is higher than it is here in Virginia. But what economics taught me in school? Every state that you go to, every country that you go to, the economics or the economy or the numbers, that's based upon what's going on in that state. So what I learned in my mind I say to myself so if I go to California, instead of the rent being $1,700 a month, is $2,700 a month. However, the job that I get hired on, with the skill set that I got, would pay me enough to make sure that I'm able to cover that $2,700 a month. So that's what it's meant by the cost of living is higher over here than it is over here, but the numbers and the jobs that they give meet it.

Telisa Randle:

But when you're looking at the negativity of it on the news, it delivers a different perspective. It delivers a perspective of poor struggle. You know rural areas. It delivers that. But if you really go to the state and you really live in the state, on the level of intellectual development that you have and the education that you have, if you go there, you'll see the numbers go up or the numbers go down, because it's based upon the economy. You'll see that. Why the numbers are important. And this is why I say to my kids pay attention to the numbers, not the emotions, because news gives you the emotions.

Chuck :

Right. So how would you adjust to it? Like you know what I'm saying, Go back to what you was talking about. How would you adjust to it if the cost of living is more somewhere else than here?

Telisa Randle:

Okay, like, for instance, I'm going to give it to you from a law and number perspective because I don't want people to think I got numbers and facts.

Telisa Randle:

I'm just telling you, based upon my experience of making decisions, if I want to relocate to another state, from one state to another state, I focus on the numbers, I focus on what the economy is doing there. So like, for instance, just giving you law numbers from a therapeutic perspective, like for a therapist. Like, say, for instance, I was making 3000 a month as a therapist in Chicago and then I moved to Virginia and because Virginia is 85% military and veterans, it guarantees me the clientele and so instead of making $3,000 a month, I'll be making $3,500 a month.

Telisa Randle:

Right and so, based upon the economy and what's going on in the numbers, then the likelihood of me succeeding moving to Virginia is still parallel to Chicago, because I'm going to guarantee my monthly salary. All I need to do is focus on the numbers. Now say, for instance, that $500, because the cost of living is a little bit higher here. And then Chicago I paid, you know, mortgage at $1,000 a month. And then I come here to Virginia and the mortgage is $1,200 a month, so that additional $500 from the $3,500 meets the economy here for me to be able to pay that mortgage when I get here,

Telisa Randle:

That's the way I think. The perspective and I learned that based upon economics, because I learned that from the cost of living in my economics class, from one state to another, from one country to another, and then I learned student and free enterprise comes from our president, because our president do a state of address and he addressed various, all the different areas of life, if you really pay attention. So I don't look at president's address from perspective to hear what you got to say and have an attitude about it. I'd be like hurry up with student free enterprise.

Chuck :

Get over on, get to what I need to hear.

Telisa Randle:

I need to know what I'm looking at in future, so I adjusted myself. You know that's me, so I happen to hear other stuff.

Chuck :

But I said, nope, that's about it for the Lord.

Telisa Randle:

Nope, yeah, I said nope, that's about it for the Lord. Nope, that's about it for the Lord.

Chuck :

Nope, that's about it for the Lord, that's not my fight.

Telisa Randle:

Like nope, that's my battle right now.

Chuck :

What's that?

Telisa Randle:

number, you know. So, like I said, I'm a different beast on this, yeah, yeah, and I see it from a positive perspective rather than a negative, that's good, and then, when things happen and what they teach you in church, that sometimes God's order, sometimes it's this divine invention. We've exceeded our purpose, you know, and so you know. Now we go on to go be with him, for him to say job Well done.

Chuck :

Finish here. Yeah, I like it, I like that so.

Telisa Randle:

I look at it from that perspective. But anyway, that's what I mean when I say cost of living economy, things of that sort.

Telisa Randle:

So you know, but it helps me as an individual to not wear the tattoos of depression, not wear the tattoos of bipolar, not wear the tattoos of panic, attack and anxiety. But I'm also brought up in a household where my grandma went to church. My grandfather was a pastor at a church, so I learned through them that faith stuff. So I will take those risks, I'm liable to take those risks. And then when you have a plan and you go out with a plan and this is that thing when I say that when you leave your parents' house, leave with a positive, you know, inside rather than a negative.

Chuck :

Right.

Telisa Randle:

Because then, if things fell apart for me?

Chuck :

you can come back and come back home. Burn your bridges up. It's good information, yeah.

Telisa Randle:

Go in the room, shut the door and say, okay, now I got an eviction under my credit report. I'm gonna sit here in my mama's house for about three to six months and try to pay off this eviction, to get it off my credit report. I'm gonna sign somebody to repair it off my credit report or something, but I'm getting it off because I'm going right back out there.

Chuck :

So don't leave home on a negative note. Don't burn the bridges because you might come back home. You might have to come back, wow.

Telisa Randle:

Yeah, and parents got to understand that their child is not mature, is not grown until they're mature. There's a different definition to grown and mature. They're not the same definition. That's deep. So your child may be at an adult age, but they're probably not mature enough.

Chuck :

Mentally.

Telisa Randle:

Right, so they can be grown, but not mature. So just know that when you know your child is not mentally or physically or economically mature, just know that they're going to run into some problems, right. And just know that as a parent, it's up to you, because I'm not telling people how to run a household, I just hold myself accountable. I say I'm gonna send my daughter out there, send my son out there, and if they fell in the numbers there's an extra bedroom.

Chuck :

Wow.

Telisa Randle:

And in the extra bedroom. All I can say with my children is go with the floor of the house, don't focus on nothing but the floor of the house.

Chuck :

don't come in here trying to correct me Sometimes, sometimes, though, telysa, I think it's good to not let them know they can, you know, return back, because it'll be like, okay, I can be lackadaisical, if I don't meet this payment, I could go back home. You know what I'm saying. So, I guess it's pros and cons to that, you know yeah it is pros and cons to that, but you know your child right.

Telisa Randle:

Okay, you raised your child. So, Lisa, don't know your child.

Chuck :

Got you.

Telisa Randle:

And Telysa don't know you as a child. So as a parent you know your child. If I know that this is the child that need to stay out there a little longer, it is fair for me as a parent to say okay, to plant that seed in them to say, okay, okay, you can come home, but this is what's gonna happen.

Chuck :

This, how long?

Telisa Randle:

And this is what's got to happen. And if you see it from that perspective because I taught you from this perspective so you know, I had a conversation with them, I got fireballs, I got a daughter that's a fireball. That fireball was set off in a heartbeat. But also I have to own myself the accountability of giving her their awareness when she comes in my household and say let me tell you something, you can't use that here. When you use that here, I will shut that down.

Chuck :

Wow.

Telisa Randle:

And I will say that it's easily to get you back out the door. And when you go out this time you know you can't come back, gotcha. You can't walk on this earth and say my mama didn't love me, my mama didn't care, my mama didn't. Hold yourself accountable.

Chuck :

Yeah.

Telisa Randle:

Wow, Because if you hold yourself accountable, there is room for forgiveness of self, Because they ain't gonna do me. Is room for forgiveness of self in this room for open door? Open the open process of accountability, because if you do it here, you do it to somebody else, then you'll be going through the cycle over and over again. To avoid going through the cycle is to fix it and get it fixed, learn from it and get it learned, take the risk and learn from those risks and put those numbers together Wow. So whoever you date, they better be a numbers person. Why? Because if they're the emotional person they make emotional decisions that's in there.

Telisa Randle:

That's what a comma come in yeah.

Chuck :

Make emotional decisions. Yeah, yeah.

Telisa Randle:

Making emotional decisions for other people's emotions. That ain't got nothing with you, those battles for the Lord.

Chuck :

Got you as we close. I really enjoyed this conversation. What advice would you give a young person today? Because I know you see a lot of them coming in, you know, to see you as a therapist, right. So what advice would you give a young person? And then, what advice would you give a parent? Would you have given it to him? But real quick, what quick advice would you give a young kid?

Telisa Randle:

I would say unlearn your fears.

Chuck :

Mm.

Telisa Randle:

Yep, that's what I say to a young person. I like that.

Chuck :

To a parent now.

Telisa Randle:

To a parent.

Chuck :

Yes.

Telisa Randle:

Understand that growing, changing and developing and it's up to you to help them in the guidance of growing, changing and developing. There's still growing, changing and developing.

Chuck :

So to be patient with them.

Telisa Randle:

And you have to be a little bit more patient. You know your child better than I do, wow, and you know who's growing, who's changing and who's developing and all three of those aspects. And then you know who's lacking in the growing, who's lacking in the development, who's lacking in the changing. And once you see all three of those, then do an assessment with them, sit down with them and assess why they're not learning, sit down in assessment and why they're not changing. Sit down and do an assessment with them while they're not developing and guide them in the direction of growing, changing and developing.

Telisa Randle:

Wow, wow you don't have to dehumanize your children. You don't have to do any of that.

Chuck :

Amazing, amazing conversation. Shout out to you, to Lisa Randall, for having this conversation and coming back to have this conversation. Oh, let's just talk about the podcast. I really appreciate you.

Telisa Randle:

Back to the basics.

Chuck :

Back to the basics. I love that that's the title. Back to the basics.

Telisa Randle:

Back to the basics so that when your grandchildren come they will at least get the basics.

Chuck :

Fundamentals Foundation.

Telisa Randle:

Wow.

Chuck :

I love it, wow. Thanks again.

Telisa Randle:

You're welcome, as usual.

Chuck :

Wow, what an amazing conversation. Shout out to you, to Lisa, for having another great dialogue with me. You know, one of the things that really stuck out to me about this conversation, amongst many other things, was when she said getting back to the basics, in other words, getting back to that place where education is important. That is all right to pursue wealth, but, more importantly, being educated in what you're pursuing, that basic science, technology, education and math matters so that we can continue to survive and thrive. So shout out to you, to Lisa, for that wealth of wisdom. Again, thank you so much for always tuning in to let's Just Talk About it podcast, and please check out my website. Just Google let's Just Talk About it podcastcom and then hit that subscribe button to receive all the new episodes every Friday. You can also find me on Facebook. Just type in Chuck L J T A I, which means let's Just Talk About it. So, as always, until next time, don't hold it in, but let's just talk about it. Talk to you soon.